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ll involved in a double…dealing business。
none of these people know anything about the soul。
look at the crowd； at this queue； at this platoon of sadhus； at this whole great circus of sadhus all over the country。
some clown with bandages over their mouths； some perform acrobatics with a staff in their hands； others present yet another type of circus！ such a crowd of people know the soul and this country is in such a decline！ its hard to believe。
there are people who blame the mon man for causing the moral decline in the world。
i would like to say they are wrong。
the mon man has always been the same。
in the past； around the world； the moral character was high because of a few self…realized individuals。
the mon man always remained the same； he has remained unchanged。
there have been a few beings； of course； who always raised； always uplifted human consciousness。
their very presence has always worked as a catalytic agent and has always elevated human life。
the responsibility for the present low state of human character lies with these sadhus； with the so…called holy men； with the hypocrites and charlatans who talk about religion。
the mon man bears no responsibility for it whatsoever。
neither did he before； nor does he now。
if you want to change the world； stop talking nonsense about improving the moral conduct of each and every person； about teaching moral education to everyone。
if you want to change the world； a few individuals will have to be willing to go through very intense inner experiments。
those who are ready to undergo the experiment deep within themselves
not too many； just a hundred people。
if a hundred individuals in a country reach a point of knowing what the soul is； the life of that entire country will be automatically uplifted。
with the presence of a hundred shining lamps the whole country can be uplifted。
i agreed to speak on this subject only because i felt that in case some courageous man came forward； i would invite him； 〃e on！ if you are ready to go on an inward journey； i am willing to take you。
there； it can be shown what life is and what death is。
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Chapter 9
小说
the ultimate freedom
5 november 1969 am in opera house； bombay； india
a few questions have been asked； seeking clarification of certain points i discussed in last nights talk。
question 1
a friend has asked： if a man and a woman create an opportunity for the soul to take birth； then does it mean there are many separate souls and not one universal soul？ also； on many occasions you have said there is only one truth； one god； one soul。
arent these statements contradictory？
there is no contradiction。
of course； god is one。
the soul is essentially one too； but the body is of two types。
one is the gross body which we can see； and the other is the subtle body which we cannot see。
at the moment of death； the gross body falls away； but the subtle body remains intact。
the soul resides within two bodies …… the subtle body and the gross body。
at the time of death the gross body dies。
the body which is made of earth and water； the body which consists of flesh； bones and marrow； drops； dies。
subsequently； the body prised of subtle thoughts； subtle feelings； subtle vibrations； subtle filaments； remains。
this body； formed of all these subtle things； along with the soul； once again proceeds on a journey； and again enters a gross body for a new birth。
when a new soul enters the mothers womb； it means this subtle body enters。
in the event of death only the gross body disintegrates； not the subtle body。
but with the occurrence of the ultimate death； what we call moksha； the subtle body disintegrates along with the gross body as well。
then there is no more birth for the soul。
then the soul bees one with the whole。
this happens only once。
it is like a drop merging into the ocean。
three things have to be understood。
first； there is the element of the soul。
when the two types of bodies …… the gross and the subtle …… e in contact with this element of the soul； both bee active。
we are familiar with the gross； the physical body； a yogi is familiar with the subtle body； and those who go beyond yoga are familiar with the soul。
ordinary eyes are able to see the gross body。
the yogic eye is able to see the subtle body。
but that which is beyond yoga； that which exists beyond the subtle body； is experienced only in samadhi。
one who goes beyond meditation attains samadhi； and it is in the state of samadhi that one experiences the divine。
the ordinary man has the experience of the physical body； the ordinary yogi has the experience of the subtle body； the enlightened yogi has the experience of the divine。
god is one； but there are countless subtle bodies and there are countless gross bodies。
the subtle body is the causal body； it is this body that takes on the new physical body。
you see many light bulbs around here。
the electricity is one； that energy is one； but it is manifesting through different bulbs。
the bulbs have different bodies； but their soul is one。
similarly； the consciousness manifesting through us is one； but in the manifestation of this consciousness； two vehicles are applied。
one is the subtle vehicle； the subtle body； the other is the gross vehicle； the gross body。
our experience is limited to the gross； to the physical body。
this restricted experience is the cause of all human misery and ignorance。
but there are people who； even after going beyond the physical body； may stop at the subtle body。
they will say； 〃there are an infinite number of souls。
〃 but those who go beyond even the subtle body will say； 〃god is one； the soul is one； brahman is one。
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there is no contradiction in my statements。
when i referred to the entering of the soul； i meant that soul which is still associated with the subtle body。
it means the subtle body the soul is enveloped in has not disintegrated yet。
thats why we say that the soul which attains to the ultimate freedom steps out of the cycle of birth and death。
there is indeed no birth and death for the so